Men Must Apply to Date Us
Strict security features to protect Members of our Order 1-31-24
From Pete Jackson:
Rasa, I have been meaning to comment on this, but I kept on forgetting over the years:
(There should be a record kept of the relationships, when a man leaves a woman or a woman dismisses a man. He explains why he left; she explains why she dismissed him. These records can be accessed by any other woman who is interested.
In this way, males who are unsatisfactory will not get away with what they do – if they are dismissed for transgressions,– they cannot easily bounce around & affect other women. Women will know ahead of time if there be any risks or detriments.)
Pete says:
I would add that there is nothing inherently wrong with that, if such a thing is voluntary. But if such records and reporting were mandatory, that would come dangerously close to the Chinese “social credit” system with all of its myriad pitfalls. Most Women would probably prefer to keep at least some trysts “off the record” like the Mosuo often do. Just my $0.02.
Rasa says:
It’s an idea to be considered Ajax, not set in stone. There are many ideas I am writing that will be flexible. This can be discussed & worked out by the elders & seen from many perspectives. You could be right, we shall see. We shall think, meditate & discuss! Rasa
From Pete:
What is China’s Social Credit System, for those who don’t already know?
Short answer: it’s every totalitarian’s dream come true.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System
Per Wikipedia:
“The Social Credit System (Chinese: 社会信用体系; pinyin: shèhuì xìnyòng tǐxì) is a national credit rating and blacklist being developed by the government of China. The social credit initiative calls for the establishment of a record system so that businesses, individuals and government institutions can be tracked and evaluated for trustworthiness. There are multiple forms of the social credit system being experimented with, while the national regulatory method is based on whitelisting (termed redlisting in China) and blacklisting.”
(And that’s putting it nicely!)
“China’s Social Credit System has been implicated in a number of controversies. Western critics view social credit as an intrusive mechanism that infringes on privacy. In October 2018, U.S. Vice President Mike Pence criticized the social credit system, describing it as “an Orwellian system premised on controlling virtually every facet of human life.”[114] In January 2019, George Soros criticized the social credit system, saying it would give CCP leader Xi Jinping “total control over the people of China””.
“In December 2017, Human Rights Watch described the proposed social credit system as “chilling” and filled with arbitrary abuses.”
And that was BEFORE the plandemic. And the WEF (Davos Gang) allegedly wants something like that for the entire world.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what the pitfalls would be, *especially* if it were applied to something as intimate as dating and mating. Anyone who has worked in show business is likely familiar with the ominous threat, “you’ll never work in this town again”, and social credit is, at best, a high tech version of that, and likely crossed with classic McCarthyism.
As for what I would suggest as an alternative way to protect Women from bad, evil, crappy, lowlife, toxic, and/or ne’er-do-well men who persist in their defection and bad behavior (i.e. that doesn’t quite rise to the level of criminality but is still toxic) and then bounce back and forth on to the next Woman and so on, I’m afraid I unfortunately don’t have any clear answers at this time. It is a classic trade-off between liberty and security, it seems, and thus perhaps a problem that may not have any solution in a free society.
It is just something we will have to accept, I guess. In any case, the Mosuo don’t seem to see the need for any sort of mandatory record keeping in that regard, nor do any other Matriarchal societies past or present.
I will note that nowadays with the advent of the internet, word travels fast in terms of reputation. Throw in those ubiquitous Ring cameras, CCTV, and billions of smartphones with cameras, and in practice, privacy has already dwindled almost to the level of Jeremy Bentham’s Panopticon, for better or worse. One partial solution in that vein would be a *voluntary* registry that Women can post reviews about men (as long as it is not libelous) without threat of censorship. Manosphere misogynistic men already apparently have their own site called “Register Her”, (to the reader: do NOT look at it unless you really want to get in a rage!) so why can’t Women turn the tables and have their own side called “Register Him”, then? Again, *voluntary* is the key word here. And *decentralized* as well.
Women could even do this right now if they wanted to. But it is ultimately something for future generations to decide.
In my every deliberation on any such matters, I ask myself, if I knew I were to die tomorrow and be reincarnated as a Woman, what sort of world would I want to live in? And I nearly always keep coming back to the same answer.
Rasa says:
Wow Ajax, talk about ‘food for thought’! It’s a complicated issue. I think we shall throw this concern to the elders. These would be the women over 60 – maybe 62 & up. Assuming they have experience, how would they protect women from bad guys who are not criminals but have all sorts of detrimental traits? Criminals we shall expunge, blacklist them for sure – no holds barred, just there’s the door & that’s it. By criminal I mean stealing, abuse, violence, anything serious. But there is MENTAL & EMOTIONAL CRUELTY that appears under the radar. A person can hurt you just by being SILENT or by leaving every day to God knows where – bars, whoring – being a bisexual, searching for drugs – all kinds crap. This would not register as ‘criminal.’ They can also be SARCASTIC & constantly even in subtle ways, putting her down – Criticizing her. Women don’t need that – we’ve been put down, criticized, devalued, swept aside long enough. I’m wondering if you’re overreacting to my suggestion – as you said, males are already registering us. I will look that site up. No one is speaking about that that I’ve heard of. It’s what they do to us, it seems to be permitted, but God forbid we use any restraint on them, even GOOD GUYS like you get upset! We are NOT NAZIS or COMMUNIST/TYRANTS, Chinese TORTURERS. This is a God-driven, God centered organization with the bywords same as Jesus Christ & the Saints. Why do you or would anyone fear we will do men in? It’s simply reporting negative stuff like I said, being silent, morose, uncommunicative, not doing their chores or duties, not caring, not helping, going away to do secret or unknown things. Like being ‘with the boys’ & what do boys do? Drinking, drugs, whoring, plotting against women. No, I think you have overreacted Ajax. We need a registry. I shall look for that female registry. Thank you for opening the discussion. Rasa
From Pete:
Indeed it is a war. But in the long run, it is one that men have lost before the war began, despite winning nearly every battle. Men just don’t realize it yet. (Much like the USA in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.)
I guess the main reason why I overreacted was due to my long observation that “cancel culture” has really gotten out of hand in this country (and some others) in recent years, where literally everyone is guilty until proven innocent in a court of public opinion. It’s the new McCarthyism. Once a person’s reputation is ruined, and it really doesn’t take very much, their life is basically over, often forever. That is largely why I so zealously and jealously guard my own reputation, almost literally with my life. And both genders are indeed guilty of this behavior nowadays, it seems.
(Any readers who don’t know what “cancel culture” is are free to Google it.)
Combine that with creeping Orwellian tendencies on both sides of the Atlantic (and Pacific too) these days, and that doesn’t make for anything good.
I am well aware that you are nothing like that, of course.
From Rasa:
We women will need to create a Matriarchal culture & there hasn’t been one for THOUSANDS of years – what 6k? And so we’re grasping at straws, ideas how to make SAFE SPACE for women. I have hundreds of ideas how we will build a community. I’m going over these ideas one by one, this was just one of them.
I don’t see any other woman at this moment doing what I do – if there are, I haven’t noticed. People mostly COMPLAIN but their remedies are not forthcoming. I need solutions.
The Order becomes a safety net so the Member does not FALL & hurt herself, the net is there to catch her. The Order has the responsibility of looking the man up, seek references which they check up on, check his police record. If he’s had relationships we know of, contact the women he’s broke up with, see what they say. He must confess if he’s been married {any children?} or lived with anyone, & give us where to contact them if he is willing. This part would help {it could be awfully embarrassing but it would help us tremendously.}. We should also FINGERPRINT the men in case there was or is a crime. We must know their ADDRESS, legit phone number, where they work, & their license & car.
We keep this info private. But if a female wants to start DATING one of the males, she can ask to see his records while under the supervision of an officer. If she hasn’t gone out with him yet, the officer can discuss with her his records in general without giving all the information. If it gets serious she should have access to all the data – not to keep – just to inspect it. It stays private.
Now a lot of men will recoil at this! They are mostly looking to get laid, but that is their problem. Our problem – we must look after ourselves – is to get what we want, whatever it is, without any bad side effects. Therefore the net.
Some women will want to just have sex. They might want to get pregnant, even, & keep the baby without a father. They might like the man for sex but not for husband. We are their security & home – they can do that with our encouragement. But if the man gets ‘in love’ or ‘obsessed’ with the female he had sex with – we must protect her. It can get complicated. If he’s stalking her he can’t come to the dances any more. She might have to get an order of protection. We will have to have security guards, dogs, whatever it takes. I am working all this out in my mind, there will be lots more working out when the time comes to build physically.
With the male relationships it’ll get really complicated. No easy answers. It’ll be the same with women who fall in love with women, but there will be less violence – intimidation & threats. But it will get complicated.
You might scoff at us requiring so much for the ‘dances’ attendees. At these dances we’ll have any of our members over the age of 12–girls 12, boys 14. {We will have boy Members, sons of the Mother Members.} That’s when I started going to dances – my Dad took us. Nothing bad occurred, just dancing. That’s when kids begin puberty & they are interested in sex, relationships, with male or female. So be it. We must accept normalcy!
Again, to defend our scrutiny. This strict application does not by any means, guarantee safety for our members! Ted Bundy, before he had a record would have passed as he was charming, articulate & attractive. John Wayne Gacey could also pass before he had a record. Jeffrey Dahmer might also pass before he was ever arrested. There is evil lurking in the hearts of men that cannot be scrutinized except by God, or a psychic medium. It gives us partial protection.
Then there are those who through relationships have proven themselves bad risks for closeness {some women want relationships, not only sex} – that’s where the registry comes in, that you object to – {taking away human rights you say}. – The women who write reports on males they had bad experiences with, of course it’s voluntary. No one forces them to explain. It could be as simple & innocent as
‘He’s a slob. Never cleans up his own mess, expects you to do everything. Drinks milk straight out of the bottle.’
I also understand that we will WEED OUT the majority of males who’d like to meet females. It will be AGAINST OUR RULES strictly for a woman to associate with males who have not gone through the net. They will be reprimanded & in danger of being ousted from the community. {The males will try to persuade them to do this; they want to be free, let her take chances & risk her safety. Some will be naive & gullible & do it.} Whoever doesn’t mind filling out the data will have a clean record & good intentions. No men with past records – no men yet married – no men who intend to do a crime or have done a crime, will want to sign up. Men who are pure of heart, good intentions, good past records are most likely to join. That’s what we want.
If we only have one newcomer a week attend, it’s no big deal – we have fun anyway. We’ll practice dancing, have contests & any show business training we have conducted, such as musical instruments or singing or reciting – this is a place to perform, show their stuff. It will inspire them to practice.
PS – Regards reputations, the info discovered remains within the Order, not for public knowledge.
One more thing. Pete, you’re reacting as if this will apply to the whole world & all men in it. This is just one Order trying to start out. Look at the Amish, Hutterites, Mennonites & whatever. Surely it does not frighten you that they have strict rules, ideas, dress codes, behavior & all that – to deviate means to be shunned. A group has a right to make its own rules, that’s what I’m doing. You’re acting like my ideas will apply to the entire world! Let us begin this way, hope for the best. I’m just trying to start a Matriarchal community good for women. I am including men with reservation. Shall I exclude them completely? Let the women run amuck so to speak, find their own men to have sex with with no scrutiny or reservations, references & information on them? Is that what you want? Will that make you happy? Rasa
