HERO FANTASIES OF MEN <> LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN MINDS

By Rasa Von Werder, May 12th, 2014
What is clear is that men would be better off following the orders of women and not other men. This is because alpha men seem to care little about the men they rule - they will send them to wars to die, or create societies where the majority live in poverty, while they live in extreme wealth. This is why female leaders would be better for the majority of men.

MALE SUPERHERO FANTASIES <> LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN MINDS

By William Bond……..Comments by Rasa Von Werder

Thanking Female Supremacy Now 2 for the wonderful illustrations.  She finds the images, photo shops them, and adds captions.  Brilliant work!

Male fantasies seem to revolve around competition, conflict and violence. In any comic book character, we find supreme beings like Superman or Spider-man, prodigiously powered heroes fighting against mega villains. Violence is the central theme of these stories and the hero wins in the end  by  being stronger or smarter than the villain.

These stories are popular with males because most of them would like these powers. Boys also like western, martial arts, spy, gangster and war stories. Although these heroes don’t have superpowers they are strong and skillful with their fists or guns.

So whether to be obedient to women or to other men is not an issue with men.  It only becomes an issue when they are brainwashed into believing they are superior to women, by alpha men.  Patriarchal leaders do this, because they want men to obey them and not obey women instead.

So whether to be obedient to women or to other men is not an issue with men. It only becomes an issue when they are brainwashed into believing they are superior to women, by alpha men. Patriarchal leaders do this, because they want men to obey them and not obey women instead.

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RASA SAYS: YES, INDEED, I AGREE. RECENTLY THEY HAD A SERIES OF JOHN WAYNE MOVIES ON TCM. I NEVER WATCHED JOHN WAYNE MOVIES BECAUSE THEY ARE MOSTLY COWBOY SHOOT’M’UPS OR WAR STUFF. BUT WITH THE HOSTS EXPLAINING IN DETAIL THE LIFE OF JOHN WAYNE, THE HISTORY OF HIS MOVIES, IT SEEMED SO INTERESTED, I TOOK A PEEK. (AFTER WATCHING SEVERAL OF THESE PICTURES I GOT A REWARD; JOHN WAYNE BECAME MY FRIEND FROM HEAVEN AND NOW GIVES ME GOOD ADVICE. HE ESPECIALLY RATTED OUT THE MALE MODELS THAT WERE GIVING ME SO MUCH TROUBLE – HE OPENED MY EYES.)
IN ONE OF HIS EARLY MOVIES JOHN WAS AN INNOCENT COWBOY RUNNING WITH TWO LOSER TYPES AND CHASING SOME BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. HE HAS TO INFILTRATE THE AREA’S MOST DEADLY GANG, AND FINDS HIMSELF IN THEIR MIDST, WHERE THE WORST OF THEM PITS HIM INTO SOME CONTESTS.
WHAT DREW MY ATTENTION WAS THE PREDICTABILITY OF THESE CONTESTS – IN ALL MALE HERO MOVIES THE WINNER HAS TO HAVE SUPERLATIVE POWERS AND SKILLS. OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE ALL MALE FANTASIES AND THERE ARE NO MEN LIKE THESE, BUT IT’S EASY TO DRAW A PICTURE, INSERT CAPTIONS, OR HIRE AN ACTOR TO PRETEND TO BE HEROIC.
SO THIS VILLAIN CHALLENGES JOHN WAYNE TO THREE CONTESTS, WHERE EVERYONE SMIRKS THAT JOHN WILL BE DEFEATED, BUT JOHN WINS ALL THREE. DARNED IF I CAN RECALL THEM, BUT TWO WERE UNUSUAL, LIKE DART THROWING & SOMETHING ELSE WEIRD, THE THIRD BEING A SHOOTOUT. JOHN HITS THE MARK ON ALL THREE, HE’S THE GREATEST, NOW THE GANG PULLS HIM IN AND HE IS UNDER COVER.
ALL MEN WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THEY ARE GREAT, BUT FEW ARE GREAT. GREAT MEN ARE BUDDHA, JESUS, MAHATMA GANDHI, SAINT MARTIN LUTHER KING JR., MY MATRIARCHAL HERO WILLIAM BOND, HONEST, STEADFAST MEN WHO DO RIGHT.
THE “WALTER MITTY” SYNDROME IS ALL IN THEIR HEADS.

So the fantasy world of most males is fierce competition and violence. This is why men like watching sports or playing them, because sport is about competition – and boxing, rugby, American or Australian football are especially violent. If men are unable to play sports, they can play violent video games. Even intellectual board games like chess have a background of war between kingdoms.

Why do men like competitive and violent games? The human male is not alone in liking violence. In the animal world the male lions, rams, stags and bulls fight against each other for dominance. Men likewise do the same, but where animals fight with claws or bang their heads together, men use spears, swords, rifles, machine-guns, bombs, tanks, aircraft, warships and nuclear bombs. As the result, weapon-technology makes men the most dangerous animals on the planet. We can see this, in the nuclear attack on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of WW2.

RASA SAYS: I HAVE DONE A LOT OF PRAYING AND CHANNELING ON THE EVIL OF MEN AND THE DEVASTATION TO OUR PLANET. THIS VIOLENCE EXPLAINED HERE HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED BY THE UNIVERSE, THE HIGHER POWER OR WHAT WE CALL “GOD.” THAT WHICH IS ABOVE AND BEYOND IS PUTTING A STOP TO IT ALL BY REMOVING MEN OFF OUR PLANET, OR PUT IN ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE,
“HE WHO LIVES BY THE SWORD DIES BY THE SWORD.”
MEN, WHO DESIRE TO KILL MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, ANIMALS, AND NATURE, ARE DYING THEMSELVES. THEIR VIOLENCE, LUST FOR DEATH HAS COME UPON THEM. DR. BRYAN SYKES SAID,
“HUMAN MALES ARE A GENETIC MODIFICATION EXPERIMENT THAT DID NOT WORK, AND NATURE IS REMOVING THEM.”
HOW DID THIS EXPERIMENT NOT WORK?
BY THEIR MALICE.
ONCE, THEY LIVED PRODUCTIVELY UNDER THE SHELTER AND AUTHORITY OF WOMEN – THIS WENT ON FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME TO ABOUT 5,000 YEARS AGO. IN THE AGE CALLED KALI YUGA, THEY BEGAN TO ATTACK PEACEFUL AGRARIAN COMMUNITIES, WHERE MEN AND WOMEN LIVED IN HARMONY, WHICH EVENTUALLY LED TO PATRIARCHY – (THE WORST SYSTEM EVER OPERATED ON OUR PLANET.)
THESE MEN ARE DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE AS “LUCIFER” TURNING INTO “SATAN” AND TAKING A THIRD OF THE ANGELS WITH HIM – AN ANALOGY FOR MEN TURNING AGAINST MOTHER GOD AND WOMEN, WANTING TO BE WORSHIPED AS GOD, WANTING THE GLORY. THIS LUCIFER SAID HE WAS THE BRIGHTEST ANGEL IN HEAVEN AND HE SHOULD BE WORSHIPED, BUT THIS WAS AN AFFRONT AND THE GRACE OF GOD WAS DENIED HIM AND HENCEFORTH – HE WAS DOOMED.
GOD’S ANGEL CONSIGNED THIS CREATURE AND HIS FOLLOWERS TO HELL, BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM THE EARTH SEEKING WHOM THEY CAN DEVOUR. SATAN COMES TO
“STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY” – PATRIARCHY.

THERE IS NO REDEEMING VALUE TO SATAN (AND HIS DEMONS, AND HIS AGENDA, HIS PATRIARCHY) IN ANY WAY, NOR MUST WE PITY HIM. WE CAN ONLY AVOID HIM AND HIS TEMPTATIONS AND HIS WORKS, AND ARE TO COMBAT HIM WITH THE WORDS OF GOD, AS JESUS DID IN THE DESERT.
WE, WHO ARE OF GOD, ARE MIGHTILY ABUSED, AS SATAN AND HIS PATRIARCHAL DEMONS KNOW WHO WE ARE – WE ARE TO BE ESPECIALLY PERSECUTED.
THOSE WHO SIDE WITH SATAN, BOTH FEMALES AND MALES, ARE NOT ALL MURDERERS, BUT THEY ARE ON THE “BROAD HIGHWAY TO HELL”, LIVING ONLY FOR THE WORLD AND THE LOWER LIFE, DEVOID OF SPIRITUAL LOVE. THIS IS PART OF THE AGENDA OF SATAN, FOR US TO LIVE LIFE WITHOUT LOVE, TO FOLLOW THE WORLD AND DIE WITH IT. THIS IS HIS PLAN. HE HAS A DESTRUCTIVE IDEA FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
AS THE SAINTS EXPLAIN, MORE PEOPLE ARE LOST THAN SAVED, AD PART OF THE REASON IS PATRIARCHY.

In their fantasies, men are even worse, as in the popular, “Star Wars” films, where some super-weapon destroys whole planets with billions of people. The trouble is what men fantasize becomes reality as technology advances. During the cold war between the USSR and the USA they brought us close to nuclear war. This would have wiped out our present civilization.

The problem for women is that men can take their competitive and violent behaviour into relationships. According to a World Health Organization; article “Violence against women: a problem of epidemic proportions”, they claim, “It affects more than one third of all women globally.” (They admit, this is a very conservative estimate.) This violence consists of assault, rape and murder. In Muslim countries, it can be worse with genital mutilation and acid thrown on the faces of women, as well as stoning and beheading.

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What is clear is that men would be better off following the orders of women and not other men.  This is because alpha men seem to care little about the men they rule - they will send them to wars to die, or create societies where the majority live in poverty, while they live in extreme wealth.  This is why female leaders would be better for the majority of men.

What is clear is that men would be better off following the orders of women and not other men. This is because alpha men seem to care little about the men they rule – they will send them to wars to die, or create societies where the majority live in poverty, while they live in extreme wealth. This is why female leaders would be better for the majority of men.

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RASA SAYS: INDIA ALSO, FOR LESS THAN ONE DOLLAR, MALES BUY ACID AND THROW IT INTO THE FACES OF THEIR WIVES, WHICH TOTALLY DISFIGURES THEM AND EVEN BLINDS THEM. FOR WHAT? MOST OF THEM, IT’S ABOUT DOWRY. THE WOMAN DIDN’T GIVE ENOUGH. ONE BEAUTIFUL GIRL SAID,
“WHERE WAS I GOING TO GET $75.?”
BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT DELIVER $75., HE BLINDED HER IN ONE EYE AND DISFIGURED HER, A ONCE STUNNING WOMAN IS UGLY FOR LIFE.
SHE CRIED BECAUSE SHE KNEW ANOTHER GIRL WHO GOT A FAKE EYE SURGERY SOME PLACE – A GIFT – BUT SHE COULD NOT AFFORD IT.

Men’s competitive instincts are also present in men’s sexual fantasies. Women have complained that pornography, seen and read by men, is men dominating or humiliating women as well as inflicting violence on them. This is because many men do see their relationship with women as a competitive power game. As the result, men can use their larger size and strength to dominate women through force.

RASA SAYS: I WONDER HOW MUCH OF THIS DOMINATION/VIOLENCE COMES FROM MALES BEING RAPED BY MEN AS CHILDREN? TO FORCE A CHILD TO SUCK HIS COCK AND RECEIVE SODOMY IS VERY PAINFUL – TRAUMATIC.

Men like to claim that women are a mystery, but women must find men’s behaviour quite strange. They think if you love men, they will give love in return. Some men can return love, but many become more selfish and abuse loving women.

Women then make the mistake of thinking that if they love these abusive men more, they will change. But it doesn’t work. Men think that if they abuse a woman and she gives love in return she is masochistic and “asking for it.”

RASA SAYS: SOME OF THEM DON’T BELIEVE THEIR BEHAVIOR IS ABUSIVE. THEY THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TREAT OTHERS AS THEY DO. THEY FIRST NEED A WAKE-UP CALL THAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS WRONG.

We can see this when Western men go to countries like the Philippines or Thailand to find wives. They do this because Asian women have a reputation of being loving and submissive. Yet Asian women’s loving nature doesn’t seem to be appreciated by Asian men, where violence against women is more commonplace than in the West.

RASA SAYS: WESTERN MEN WANT TO DO THEM LIKE ASIANS DO – ABUSE THEM, OR AT LEAST, FEEL FREE TO DO SO WHILE THE WOMAN SUBMITS. I HAVE SEEN REPORTS LIKE THIS.
ONE GUY WRITES BOOKS ABOUT MALE EMPOWERMENT. HE SAYS WESTERN WOMEN ARE DESTROYING MARRIAGE, MEN ARE GOING TO ASIAN COUNTRIES SUCH AS YOU SAY, TO FIND DECENT WIVES.
TRANSLATION: WESTERN WOMEN ARE STANDING UP TO US. THEY WON’T TAKE OUR CRAP ANY MORE, SO WE HAVE TO FIND WOMEN WHO WILL.

Feminists also have problems with men’s behaviour. They think that sexual equality is a reasonable and sensible idea, but men don’t get it. Yes, logically, men can see the sense of equality, but men’s competitive instincts get in the way. Competition and equality are not compatible. Competition is not about fairness; it is all about wining and losing. The winner gets everything and the loser nothing. Because of this, if men see women as losers, then they won’t appreciate the loving and caring aspects of women. Some men go as far as claiming that women’s loving nature is a weakness.

RASA SAYS: THROUGH THIS ARTICLE I WILL EXPLAIN HOW DANGEROUS IT IS TO BE “DOMINATING” THESE CREATURES. BUT I WILL SAY THIS – I AM LEARNING TO LOVE THEM LESS, BE LESS ACCOMMODATING.

Women see life differently, as they like the idea of equality, fairness and sharing. Women’s loving nature comes from their maternal instincts where they devote their lives in nurturing and caring for their children. They will also care for children who are not their own, as well the sick, the elderly, men and animals. The maternal instincts of females are very important for the survival of the human race, because without it, babies and children could not survive to be adults.

In recent times, what has come to the surface is a desire by men to want women to dominate them. This is called the Femdom scene, where men will pay or encourage women to be dominant and even inflict violence on men. So why would men want women to do this? Femdom is all about one partner dominating the other.

Male domination is part of many cultures like Islam, where a man is ‘dishonoured” if a woman was to disobey him or disrespect him. Because of this, according to Islamic custom, he then has the ‘right’ to beat her up or even murder her. So, male-dom is seen as ‘normal’ as it is part of many cultures of the world, while femdom is seen as strange and perverted because it’s not part of any world cultures.

So where did these male S/M fantasies in men come from? Sigmund Freud wrote about the Madonna/whore complex, where men either worship women as goddesses or despise them as sluts. Since then, many other psychologists and feminists have noticed the same thing. This unbalanced view of women probably comes from men’s competitive instincts, of seeing everyone in terms of winners or losers. If a woman is a winner she deserves to be worshiped, but if she is a loser then she is despised. Psychologists have noticed that this is a strong element of men’s sexual fantasies.

In the case of men who follow the Madonna/whore complex, they do not want to have sex with the Madonnas. This is also true of Femdom, where a man will go to a Dominatrix to be beaten or tortured, but not to have sex with her. There is also castration, cuckold and chastity belt fantasies involved in Femdom where men do not have sex with women he worships.

THE IDEA OF SEPARATING THE BOYS IS TO “IMPRINT” THE MALE UPON HIS BRAIN, WIRE IT TO GET THEM TO RESPOND TO MALE STIMULI AND AUTHORITY. OTHERWISE THE MALE WOULD REMAIN FOREVER BONDED WITH THE MOTHER/FEMALE. THIS IMPRINTING TAKIES THE FORM OF SEXUAL ABUSE AS WELL AS BRAINWASHING AGAINST WOMEN AND IN THE DIRECTION OF BRUTALITY. THE BOYS ARE BRUTALIZED BY MAKING THEM DO WHAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO – SUCK COCK AND GET SODOMISED.  WITH THEIR MOTHER/WOMEN THEY RECEIVE NORMAL, TENDER SENSUAL TOUCH; CARESS, MASSAGE, KISS FROM INNOCENT TO WHEN THEY GROW UP, EROTIC INTERCOURSE WITH WOMEN.

THE IDEA OF SEPARATING THE BOYS IS TO “IMPRINT” THE MALE UPON HIS BRAIN, WIRE IT TO GET THEM TO RESPOND TO MALE STIMULI AND AUTHORITY. OTHERWISE THE MALE WOULD REMAIN FOREVER BONDED WITH THE MOTHER/FEMALE.
THIS IMPRINTING TAKES THE FORM OF SEXUAL ABUSE AS WELL AS BRAINWASHING AGAINST WOMEN AND IN THE DIRECTION OF BRUTALITY.
THE BOYS ARE BRUTALIZED BY MAKING THEM DO WHAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO – SUCK COCK AND GET SODOMIZED. WITH THEIR MOTHER/WOMEN THEY RECEIVE NORMAL, TENDER SENSUAL TOUCH; CARESS, MASSAGE, INNOCENT KISS — WHEN THEY GROW UP, EROTIC INTERCOURSE WITH WOMEN.  BUT THE OLD SATAN MEN DO ANYTHING THEY CAN TO TRUNCATE THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH MOM AND WOMEN.

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Not all men are happy about the way males treat women. Many men get angry about violence done to women, because they do appreciate women. Yet equality, as advocated by feminists, still doesn’t seem to be an option to these men. They still believe that if they are not going to dominate women, then women should dominate them. Their competitive instincts are too strong to accept equality. Because of this, the middle ground of egalitarianism is not realistic.

Some men take their femdom fantasies to the extreme and want women to be cruel but few women want to do this. Also, many of these men become frighten of their own fantasies. They might fantasize being beaten by a cruel woman but not want to act it out in reality.

RASA SAYS: NO, MANY DO NOT, CANNOT LIVE OUT THEIR FANTASIES. THEY FEAR PAIN. THEY THINK ABOUT IT, IT SOUNDS EXCITING. BUT IN THE DOING OF IT THEY BACK OFF.

There are men who do actually have relationships with cruel women who beat them up. However, this does require the man not to use his greater size and strength to defend himself or hit her back. Many of these men find this too hard to take and soon want to get out of a relationship like this. It is a lot easier for a man to get out of an abusive relationship than it is for a woman, who is physically smaller and weaker than a man and may have children to care for. As the result, most abused women need the help of relations, the police, or a woman’s refuge, to do this. This becomes nearly impossible in extreme patriarchal societies, which do not support women.

RASA SAYS: IN THE ANCIENT DAYS OF MATRIARCHY, THIS DID NOT HAPPEN; IT IS A RESULT OF THE NUCLEAR FAMILY, OR ELSE HAREMS CONTROLLED BY MEN. WHEN WOMEN HAD MATRIARCHAL CLANS THEY BANDED TOGETHER, LIKE BONOBOS, AND PREVENTED MALE ABUSE. THEY PREVENTED INTIMIDATION, BEATINGS AND CHILD ABUSE. THE NUCLEAR FAMILY IS A PATRIARCHAL INVENTION; SO ARE HAREMS OF WOMEN. ALL DONE FOR THE MALE’S CONVENIENCE ENDS UP EVIL.

Men’s competitive instinct is the reason they don’t appreciate caring women; they see a loving nature as submission. Men claim that, “the killer instinct” is needed to be a winner. The most competitive man is generally the most ruthless. These men not only win in sports, but in the games of business and politics; it’s is not surprising to find such men ruling our world. While men rule there can be no such thing as a loving, caring government.

It seems men appreciate women more if they are bossy or dominant, than if they are loving and caring. In the eyes of men, bossy women are winners while loving women are losers. Therefore, because men worship winners they will respect and worship dominant women because, to them, dominance and winning go together. The saying, “never give a sucker an even break,” tells us a lot about men’s attitudes.

RASA SAYS: THESE ARE INTERESTING IDEAS WHICH I HAVE FOUND DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT. THE THING IS, I THINK WOMEN OFTEN PLAY A GAME OF BEING NICE. THEN WHEN THE CURTAIN COMES DOWN, THEY HAVE SNAGGED YOU, THE TABLES TURN. THEY DON’T GET VIOLENT BUT THEY SIMPLY DON’T SERVE YOU ONCE THEY HAVE SNAGGED YOU.

I HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT THE MOST POWERFUL FEMALE MOVIE STARS HAVE THAT ABILITY TO BE TOUGH AND DOMINATING – MANY OF THEM WERE BISEXUAL, WHICH MAYBE GAVE THEM AN EDGE. GRETA GARBO, MARLENE DIETRICH, MAE WEST (WAS ONCE A MALE IMPERSONATOR), BETTY DAVIS, BARBARA STANWYCK, JOAN CRAWFORD, EMANATED A TOUGHNESS THAT EARNED RESPECT.

Men like to have relationships where who is the boss is clearly established; if this is not done he will start to play power-games with his partner – he’s testing. It the woman reacts by standing up for herself, then he is likely to accept her as the boss. But if she tries to appease him, he will feel he is boss. If the woman is assertive sometimes and not at other times, this can confuse the man and the power games can go on throughout the whole of their relationship.

Some women experience men who verbally abuse them and don’t understand why. The answer lies in sport where competing players will verbally abuse each other. The main reason is to undermine the confidence of the opposing players. Men do the same to women if he is playing a power game with her. If he can undermine her confidence, then she is less likely to stand up for herself and is therefore easier to dominate.

So does this mean that women have to act like a cruel femdom dominatrix to gain the respect of men? The problem with this is that most women are not as cruel or violent as men. Women’s maternal instinct will get in the way of most women wanting to be callous and heartless with men. Women want to have loving relationships, not uncaring relationships where she is not allowed to love her partner. Therefore, if women want the type of relationship they like, with men, they have to set the agenda. And she can only do this if she is the dominant partner. This can sometimes be a problem in Femdom relationships.

The reason is, that if a woman tries to fit in with a man’s femdom fantasies she finds he starts to, “top from the bottom.” This means, she is in a relationship where it seems that he is submissive and she is dominant, but in reality it is he who is telling her how he wants her to behave. As the result, she ends up having to act out his fantasies and not hers.

In the competitive patriarchal world most men end up losers because only a handful of men can claim to be winners.  We can see this in any sport.  Most sports will have hundreds of players competing against each other, but in the end, there can be only one champion.  As the result, there can be only one winner out of hundreds of losers.  The same is also true in business and politics.  The numbers of leaders of countries or companies are very few compared with everyone else.  Therefore, although men are competitive, there are few winners.  Losing for men, is far more commonplace.

In the competitive patriarchal world most men end up losers because only a handful of men can claim to be winners. We can see this in any sport. Most sports will have hundreds of players competing against each other, but in the end, there can be only one champion. As the result, there can be only one winner out of hundreds of losers. The same is also true in business and politics. The numbers of leaders of countries or companies are very few compared with everyone else. Therefore, although men are competitive, there are few winners. Losing for men, is far more commonplace.

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RASA SAYS: I CAN’T TELL YOU HOW MANY LETTERS I GET FROM MALES WHO SAY THEY WANT TO BE MY SLAVE AND THEN TELL ME WHAT TO DO. I ASK QUESTIONS, THEY DON’T ANSWER. I ASK TO SEND A PICTURE – NOT SENT, OR ONE WITHOUT A HEAD. THEN THEY DEMAND SKYPE OR THIS AND THAT. THEN I TELL THEM I AM NOT INTERESTED AND THEY TELL ME I LOST A GOOD SLAVE. HAHAHAHA.

What this means, is that a woman has to establish that she is the boss, in reality. And if that is not acceptable to him, then she should get out of the relationship. But once that is established, she is free to train him to be exactly what she wants him to be. She can even teach him to become a loving human being. So by teaching him how to love, she can have the loving relationship she wants. A woman who tries to teach a man how to love from a subordinate position is doing it the hard way.

RASA SAYS: THERE, YOU SAID IT. IN PATRIARCHY, WITH ALL THE FACETS BEING AGAINST WOMEN, WOMEN BEING IN SUBORDINATE POSITIONS CANNOT RULE. IT’S ONLY WHEN MATRIARCHY BECOMES MORE REAL WE CAN PUT OUR FOOT DOWN. IT’S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO CONTROL MALES WHEN WE ARE SUBORDINATE—IT HAPPENS, BUT IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. THOSE OF US WHO TRY TO BE DOMINANT, THEY JUST LEAVE AND FIND A WOMAN TO SUBMIT.

A man will respect a bossy women and will learn from her, but will have no respect for a submissive woman and ignore what she has to say.

RASA SAYS: I DO UNDERSTAND THIS PREMISE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY, WHEN YOU REJECT THEM, STAND UP TO THEM, OR GET TOUGH, THEY FREQUENTLY THREATEN US OR EVEN BEAT US UP. IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME. THE THING IS, WE HAVE NO ONE TO BACK US UP – IT IS ONE LONE WOMAN AGAINST ONE LONE MAN, HE’S VIOLENT, HE’S NASTIER, BIGGER, STRONGER, LOVES TO HURT. NOW HE BEATS YOU UP OR RAPES YOU, YOU GO TO AUTHORITIES, THEY ARE ON HIS SIDE. SO IT IS DANGEROUS FOR US TO ACT DOMINANT IN PATRIARCHY. WILLIAM, YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN A WOMAN. YOU CAN BE DOMINANT AT TIMES, NOTHING HAPPENS, OTHER TIMES, YOU GET BEAT UP. THAT IS WHY THE BEST ROAD FOR WOMEN, SAY, WHEN LEAVING A MALE, IS TO DO IT BEHIND HIS BACK. THEY GET VIOLENT WHEN WE HURT THEM – WOMEN GET KILLED.
THE REASONING IS CLEAR, BUT IN ACTION, IT GETS TRICKY.

What has become clear in patriarchal history is that when men rule the world they only create conflict and poverty. Without the influence of women, men become so competitive, that they end up fighting with each other, which leads to warfare. This is made worse today with modern technology where powerful weapons can destroy whole cities. As we see in the Femdom scene men are not against women ruling the world, they only demand that women play the dominant role and act like winners. Men cannot respect women who try to appease them and behave like losers.

RASA SAYS: AS I SAID, WE HAVE TO GET INTO MATRIARCHY IN STAGES, WHERE WOMEN HAVE A BACKUP OR SUPPORT. TO DOMINATE THESE GUYS WITH NO BACKUP, NO SUPPORT, THE SOCIETY BEING AGAINST US, IS DANGEROUS.

Some women may object that men will not accept female dominance, but that is because they don’t understand the true nature of men. Women suffer far more abuse and violence in extreme patriarchal countries than in countries where Feminist women have demanded their rights. So trying to appease men, clearly does not work.

RASA SAYS: THE BEST POLICY AGAINST MALE ABUSE IS TO LEAVE THEM ON THE SLY AND GO WHERE THEY CANNOT GET AT YOU. SOMETIMES THEY STALK US. I HAVE HAD IT HAPPEN TO ME MORE THAN ONCE. USUALLY THE BEST PROTECTION IS ANOTHER MAN, IF YOU CAN FIND ONE, OR A BIG DOG. DOMINATION IS DANGEROUS IN PATRIARCHY; CAN YOU NOT SEE THIS, WILLIAM BOND? I WAS A PROFESSIONAL DOMINANT FOR TEN YEARS, IT GOT ME INTO TROUBLE A COUPLE TIMES. MEN CHANGE THEIR MINDS, THEY GET VIOLENT.

Although men will compete against women for power, they are used to being losers.

RASA SAYS: WOW, THAT IS A MOUTHFUL: “they are used to being losers” – WILLIAM COMES UP WITH THE MOST AMAZING INSIGHTS!

In the competitive patriarchal world most men end up losers because only a handful of men can claim to be winners. We can see this in any sport. Most sports will have hundreds of players competing against each other, but in the end, there can be only one champion. As the result, there can be only one winner out of hundreds of losers. The same is also true in business and politics. The numbers of leaders of countries or companies are very few compared with everyone else. Therefore, although men are competitive, there are few winners. Losing for men, is far more commonplace.

RASA SAYS: YES, AND LOSING AGAINST A WOMAN IS THEIR ULTIMATE DEFEAT, FOR, WHEN MEN LOSE AGAINST OTHER MEN, THEY CAN TAKE THAT BETTER, AS THEY ARE LED TO BELIEVE MEN ARE THE NATURAL DOMINANTS, THE STRONGER ONES. BUT WHEN A WOMAN, WHO IS SAID IN PATRIARCHY, TO BE THE WEAKER SEX, DEFEATS AND DOMINATES A MAN, HE SEES THIS AS THE ULTIMATE HUMILIATION. IT IS AT THESE TIMES THEY ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT. WOMEN KNOW THE PRICE TO PAY FOR REJECTING A MAN HARSHLY. WOMEN LEARN TO LIE, TO BE SNEAKY – THEY MUST BE WITH MEN – IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR SKINS. I HAVE LEARNED THE HARD WAY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REJECT THEM FORCEFULLY – I HAVE BEEN PUSHED AND BEATEN BADLY BY MEN.

Men are also used to obeying orders. The whole of patriarchal society could not exist without men’s total obedience to authority.

RASA SAYS: ANOTHER GOOD POINT ONLY WILLIAM COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF. MANY THINGS WILLIAM SAYS ARE TOTALLY ORIGINAL, NO ACADEMIC SAYS THESE THINGS, BECAUSE ACADEMICS ARE FOLLOWERS – THEY SEE REALITY LIKE STATISTICS, STUDIES AND EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE (INTERVIEWS, CONVERSATIONS, OBSERVATIONS), THEN THEY MAKE REPORTS ON IT. THEY DO NOT DO A LOT OF ANALYSIS, THEY DON’T DARE. BUT IF YOU NOTICE WILLIAM ANALYZES, AND SO DO I. HE DRAWS CONCLUSIONS, HE AND I SEE THINGS SUCH AS THE OTHER “MATRIARCHAL PUNDITS” DO NOT. TO BE HONEST, WE LEAD THE WAY. THEY SHOULD GIVE US CREDIT, BUT THEY ARE TOO PROUD AND SELFISH.

An extreme example of this is the military, where officers can order their men to do insane things like attacking the enemy in hundreds or thousands, or go against machine gun fire knowing that the majority of them will not survive. Men like to call this bravery or iron-discipline but it also extreme submission to authority.

RASA SAYS: INDEED, IT IS SUCH A FARCE TO CALL MILITARY MEN “HEROES” AUTOMATICALLY – ASSUME THEY DID HEROIC THINGS, WHEN MOST DID NOT. THE MEDIA LIKES TO EXPRESS THINGS IN THEIR OWN BIZARRE WAY, LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUFFERED CATASTROPHIC OR FATAL ILLNESSES. THE TABLOIDS CALL THEM “BRAVE” WHEN MAYBE THEY WERE COWARDS, SCARED TO DEATH. THEN THEY MARSHAL IN OUR POOR BOYS WHO HAVEN’T EVEN LIVED, SEND THEM PETRIFIED TO KILL AND BE KILLED, AND CALL THEM “BRAVE” WHEN THEY DIE, AND GIVE THEM POSTHUMOUS MEDALS (WHICH MEAN LITTLE OR NOTHING.) THESE POOR BOYS ARE DELUDED AND BRAINWASHED. I MEET THEM DOWNTOWN, HAIR SHAVED DOWN TO SKIN, GETTING READY TO BE USED AS CANNON FODDER, OR WHAT IS EVEN WORSE, TO GO FOREIGN PLACES AND DO DAMAGE TO CIVILIANS.

The ultimate example of men’s submission is suicide bombers, who will obey orders to blow themselves up. The Japanese were able to order their pilots to make kamikaze attacks on enemy ships in WW2. While today, many terrorist groups use suicide bombers, who strap explosives around their bodies and set them off in crowded areas. So men will obey orders even if the order is to kill themselves.

RASA SAYS: JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW STUPID MEN ARE, HOW SUSCEPTIBLE TO INTIMIDATION. I SAW A DOCUMENTARY ON WHAT HAPPENED IN JAPAN. THOSE GUYS DID NOT WANT TO DO IT. THEY WERE TOLD THEY HAD TO, – IF THEY CAME BACK ALIVE THEY WOULD EITHER BE KILLED OR LIVE LIVES WORSE THAN DEATH, THROUGH DISHONOR. THEY COULD NOT FACE COMING BACK. IMAGINE WHAT WENT THROUGH THEIR MINDS AS THEY KILLED THEMSELVES. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THINGS LIKE THIS YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I SAY,
“WE MUST SAVE MEN FROM MEN.”

So whether to be obedient to women or to other men is not an issue with men. It only becomes an issue when they are brainwashed into believing they are superior to women, by alpha men. Patriarchal leaders do this, because they want men to obey them and not obey women instead.

RASA SAYS: WHAT AN INCREDIBLE STATEMENT. THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING IN “OLD WOMAN – YOUNG MAN – WHY THEY BELONG TOGETHER.” IT IS THE OLD MEN WHO WANT CONTROL OVER THE YOUNG – THEY ARE THE FUTURE. OLD WOMEN WERE ONCE THE MENTORS, GUIDES OF THE YOUNG, INCLUDING THE MALES. THE MALES ARE ESPECIALLY TARGETED FOR WAR. MEN’S HOMOSEXUAL ATTACKS AGAINST THEM FROM CHILDHOOD ARE PART OF THE WORST DEVASTATION—MALES FIND WAYS OF SEPARATING CHILDREN FRO THEIR MOTHERS SO MOMS CANNOT PROTECT THEM. IT IS EITHER DONE IN MONASTERIES (CHINA, INDIA, TIBET) OR HAREMS (MUSLIMS, MORMONS), SAMBIA TYPE TRIBES THAT TAKE BOYS FAR INTO THE JUNGLE, OR SECRETLY IN WESTERN & OTHER CULTURES UNDER VARIOUS CLOAKS, STARTING WITH THE HOME, BUT INCLUDING CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, MILITARY — WHEREVER THEY CAN ROPE IN THE BOYS.

THE IDEA OF SEPARATING THE BOYS IS TO “IMPRINT” THE MALE UPON HIS BRAIN, WIRE IT TO GET THEM TO RESPOND TO MALE STIMULI AND AUTHORITY – OTHERWISE THE MALE WOULD REMAIN FOREVER BONDED WITH THE MOTHER/FEMALE.  THIS IMPRINTING TAKES THE FORM OF SEXUAL ABUSE AS WELL AS BRAINWASHING AGAINST WOMEN AND IN THE DIRECTION OF BRUTALITY.

THE BOYS ARE BRUTALIZED BY MAKING THEM DO WHAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO – SUCK COCK AND GET SODOMIZED. WITH THEIR MOTHER/WOMEN THEY RECEIVE NORMAL, TENDER SENSUAL TOUCH; CARESS, MASSAGE,  INNOCENT KISS — WHEN THEY GROW UP, EROTIC INTERCOURSE WITH WOMEN.

THE OLD MEN TRUNCATE ALL THAT, PUTTING THEMSELVES IN THE PLACE OF WOMEN, MOTHER WITH HER SENSUAL INTIMACY (WHICH IS IMPORTANT) AND EARLY EXPERIENCES WITH FEMALES. IT IS THE FIRST EXPERIENCES THAT MAKE A MARK. THANK GOD FOR SMALL MERCIES: THAT THEY CANNOT REMOVE THE CHILDREN PRIOR TO 5 OR 6 YEARS OLD – EXCEPT FOR RAPE IN THE HOME, THE BOYS ARE NOT TAKEN INTO MONASTERIES FOR ABUSE, NOR WERE THEY TAKEN BY THE ROMAN/GREEK/SPARTAN “MENTORS” PRIOR TO AGE 7. THE MONASTERIES IN CHINA DO ROPE THEM IN SOMETIMES AS EARLY AS 5, BUT USUALLY 6 OR 7 IS THE EARLIEST.

I BELIEVE IF THE MALES BEGAN RAPING THESE BABIES FROM DIAPERS, MOST OF THEM WOULD BE GAY/BISEXUAL. A FEW ARE SAVED FOR HETEROSEXUALITY BY THEIR EARLY EXPERIENCES WITH MOM.
HOWEVER, NONE ESCAPES HATRED OF WOMEN IN PATRIARCHY. AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY SHOW CONTEMPT OR A LACK OF RESPECT. FEW MALES VENERATE WOMEN AS THEY WOULD IN A MATRIARCHY.

What is clear is that men would be better off following the orders of women and not other men. This is because alpha men seem to care little about the men they rule – they will send them to wars to die, or create societies where the majority live in poverty, while they live in extreme wealth. This is why female leaders would be better for the majority of men.

On the personal level a dominant woman is far less likely to abuse a man and her family than a dominant man is to abuse his wife and family. According to, The Lancet medical journal: “More than a third of women murdered around the world are killed by their partner.” This figure is higher in extreme patriarchal countries where violence again a woman is encouraged. But this is not true the other way around, as few women have been known to kill their husbands. Also, fathers are far more likely to kill or abuse their children than are mothers.

So it is better for all families, if wives are the dominant partner. And it will be a lot better for everyone, if women rule the world.

RASA SAYS: SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS. ABOUT DOMINATING MEN. DO YOU REALIZE WILLIAM, HOW DANGEROUS IT IS FOR A WOMAN TO BE HARSH WITH MEN, TO DOMINATE THEM, OR TO BERATE OR REJECT THEM IN A PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY? IT SOUNDS GOOD, TO DOMINATE MEN. BUT WHEN YOU DO IT, YOU MIGHT SUFFER VIOLENCE. THAT’S WHY WOMEN BACK OFF – THEY STAY QUIET WHEN MALES CARRY ON. WOMEN HAVE LEARNED BY EXPERIENCE HOW MEN BEHAVE, THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THE CHILDREN.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS GREAT TO “DOMINATE” A GUY. I HAVE DONE IT.  WHEN YOU MEET A MAN YOU HAVE TO TREAD CAREFULLY TO SEE WHAT HE IS LIKE. FIRST, IS HE DANGEROUS? IS HE A LOOSE CANNON? DOES HE HAVE PROBLEMS IN HIS HEAD THAT COULD MAKE HIM GO OFF? YOU CAREFULLY SCREEN MEN BY PHONE BEFORE YOU MEET THEM.
AFTER YOU MEET THEM, YOU ARE IN DANGER BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ALONE WITH THEM. ONCE THEY START GOING CRAZY YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEND YOURSELF – YOU’RE ON EGGSHELLS THE FIRST MONTHS, YEAR, YOU KNOW A MAN.

I EVEN HEARD OF ONE WHO WAS WONDERFUL FOR YEARS UNTIL HE GOT HIS WIFE TO QUIT HER JOB (A GREAT JOB!), GET RID OF ALL HER FRIENDS, BUY A HOUSE IN A REMOTE LOCATION – THEN AND ONLY THEN DID HE RELEASE HIS DEMONS. HE YELLED AND SCREAMED AT HER, EVEN HOLDING A GUN TO HER HEAD. HE WENT FROM JEKYLL TO HYDE. SHE SOMEHOW FORGAVE HIM AGAIN AND AGAIN, BEFORE FINALLY QUITTING, LUCKY TO BE ALIVE. SHE TOLD HER STORY ON THE RADIO.

IN MY PERSONAL AND BUSINESS LIFE I HAVE HAD TO SCREEN AND MEET HUNDREDS OF MEN – SO I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE.
AS A WOMAN WHO HIRES MODELS, I THANK GOD FOR THE PHONE WHERE I CAN DIAL 911. A MODEL THAT I WAS PAYING $200. TO SUDDENLY DEMANDED MORE MONEY, HE SAID,

“I COULD GO CRAZY – I HAVE A TEMPER.”

TODAY, I TAKE NO CHANCES. I DIALED 911 AND THE POLICE REMOVED HIM FROM MY HOUSE.

ANOTHER SHAKEDOWN OCCURRED WITH A HOUSE PAINTER WHO I KNEW FOR YEARS, MY NEIGHBOR. I PAID HIM ALONG THE WAY, BUT AFTER A WHILE, I OWED HIM THE BALANCE. THE LAST DAY HE GAVE ME A BILL $2,000. MORE THAN OUR AGREEMENT. I ASKED HIM WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT – INSTEAD OF TALKING TO ME HE STARTED YELLING,
“JUST PAY ME – JUST PAY ME.”

HE KEPT YELLING FOR A HALF HOUR. MY CRIPPLED HOUSEMAN COULD NOT HAVE HELPED. I WAS AT A LOSS WHAT TO DO. JUST THEN A FRIEND CALLED ME, A NEIGHBOR. SHE HEARD HIM YELLING, I EVEN HAD HIM TALK TO HER ON THE PHONE AND HE WAS INCOHERENT. SHE ASKED ME IF SHE SHOULD CALL THE POLICE, I SAID YES.
IT TOOK THE POLICE – 2 CARS CAME – 45 MINUTES TO CALM HIM DOWN. THIS MAN COULD HAVE BEEN DANGEROUS, IT WAS HARD FOR THE POLICE TO MANAGE HIM. HE SAID TO HIM,

“IF YOU ARE TALKING LIKE THIS TO ME, I CAN IMAGINE HOW YOU SPOKE TO HER.”
HE FINALLY CALMED DOWN AND I PAID HIM THE AGREED SUM.

THE PROBLEM WITH MALES AND A LONE WOMAN – A FEMALE WHO HAS NO HUSBAND, SERVANTS OR BACKUP TEAM BEHIND HER – THEY FEEL BIG AND BOLD AND WANT TO GET THEIR WAY. MEN DO ROUTINELY CHARGE WOMEN FOR THE SAME SERVICES, MORE THAN THEY DO MEN. IT’S ALL,

“SHE’S WEAK, SHE CAN’T FIGHT BACK – I WILL GET MORE OUT OF HER.”

IN FACT, AUTOMOTIVE PLACES HAVE A HANDBOOK WHERE THEY TELL SALESMEN TO CHARGE THE MOST MONEY TO WOMEN, ESPECIALLY BLACK WOMEN! THESE ARE THE POOREST OF THE POOR! IT’S ALL ABOUT USING US UP – WE ARE WEAK, THEY ARE STRONG, CHOKE THE MONEY OUT OF US, RAPE US, OR BOTH.

I WILL TELL ONE MORE STORY. IN MY 20’S I HAD A BOYFRIEND WHO WAS FAIRLY SUBMISSIVE. HE USUALLY DID WHAT HE WAS TOLD, TO A DEGREE, SO I BECAME MORE DOMINATING. ONE DAY BEFORE GOING TO WORK, I GAVE HIM MONEY TO BUY PAINT AND START PAINTING MY APARTMENT.

EIGHT HOURS LATER I CAME HOME AND HE WAS PASSED OUT ON THE COUCH. THE PAINT WAS ON THE FLOOR, OPEN, HE HAD DONE A TINY BIT OF THE WALL, BOUGHT WHISKEY, GOT DRUNK.

I WOKE HIM UP, YELLED AT HIM TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, I WAS THROUGH WITH HIM.

HE GOT UP, STARTED KICKING ME WITH KARATE KICKS, PICKED UP THE PAINT AND THREW IT ALL OVER MY APARTMENT, SMATTERING ALL MY BELONGINGS, PAINT WAS DRIPPING OFF MY FURNITURE AND WALLS.

I FLED DOWN THE SIX FLIGHTS OF CHAIRS WITH HIM CHASING ME WITH AN IRON BAR.

MY WHOLE BODY, ESPECIALLY BREASTS, WERE COVERED WITH BLACK AND BLUE MARKS. THE POLICE OFFICER WHO TOOK THE CASE TOLD ME THEY ALWAYS ATTACK THE BREASTS.

HE ALSO TRIED TO PERSUADE ME TO DROP THE CHARGES. INDEED, THEY SAY POLICE DON’T LIKE TO START DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES BECAUSE WOMEN USUALLY DROP THE CHARGES – BUT THIS PROVES THAT POLICE WANT YOU TO DROP THEM. HE KEPT TELLING ME TO FORGIVE THE GUY!

I DID TAKE HIM TO COURT, HIS MOTHER PAID A FINE—I GAVE THE SUM TO MY GURU. THE APARTMENT WAS NEVER THE SAME UNTIL YEARS LATER WHEN I TOTALLY REMODELED IT. THERE WAS SO MUCH DAMAGE BECAUSE AFTER BEING BEATEN, AND STRESS WISE, I DID NOT HAVE THE ENERGY TO REMOVE THE DRIPS OFF THE WALLS, THE HARDENED DRIPS REMAINED FOR YEARS.

THAT BRINGS US BACK TO DOMINATION.

IN ORDER TO BE THE DOMINANT PERSON, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE BEHIND YOU PROTECTING YOU, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE NO LEVERAGE. WHEN YOU STAND UP AGAINST ANOTHER, IT IS YOUR STRENGTH AGAINST HIS. A WOMAN MIGHT HAVE NERVES OF STEEL, BUT IT STILL DOES NOT PREVENT HER FROM GETTING BEATEN BY A RAGING MALE, OR WORSE.
IN THE BONOBO SOCIETY, OUR COUSINS, WHEN A MALE INTIMIDATES A FEMALE, ALL THE FEMALES SURROUND HIM AND PREVENT FURTHER VIOLENCE.

IN A HUMAN MATRIARCHAL SITUATION, THERE WERE MULTIPLE WOMEN IN A HOUSE, I AM SURE THESE WOMEN COULD GANG UP AGAINST ONE MAN AGGRAVATING A WOMAN.

FURTHERMORE, IF THE MAN KNOWS SOCIETY IS AGAINST HIS VIOLENCE OR RAPE, HE MIGHT BE SLOW TO ACT. BUT IF HE KNOWS THE POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ON HIS SIDE, HE IS PRONE TO DO ANYTHING. CERTAINLY MUSLIMS IN A MUSLIM WORLD CAN DO ANYTHING TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR HOME. WHAT MUSLIM WOULD PROSECUTE THEM FOR ANYTHING?

FURTHERMORE WHEN A WOMAN GOES TO THE POLICE FOR RAPE IN ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY SHE IS JAILED AND PROSECUTED – PROBABLY GETS RAPED IN JAIL. FOREIGN WOMEN WHO SHOWED THEIR ANKLE IN PUBLIC OR LAUGHED WERE ARRESTED, MADE TO SIGN PAPERS SAYING THEY WERE PROSTITUTES, THEN GIVEN SEVERE LASHINGS.

ARE THERE ANY JAILS HOLDING MUSLIM PEDOPHILES OR WIFE BEATERS OR ABUSERS? HOW COULD THERE BE, WHEN MUSLIMS ARE TAUGHT BY THEIR PRIESTS THAT CHILD ABUSE IS ALRIGHT? THERE IS NO PROSECUTION FOR CHILD ABUSE, CERTAINLY NONE FOR BEATING WIVES, WHATEVER THE MAN DOES IS ALLOWED. HOW CAN A WOMAN OR CHILD SURVIVE HERE?

IN THE WESTERN WORLD IT IS NOT AS BAD, BUT IT’S FAR FROM PERFECT. I HAVE BEEN BEATEN, PUNCHED AND RAPED AND MOST CASES, JUSTICE HAS NOT BEEN SERVED.

AS MATRIARCHY GROWS STRONGER ECONOMICALLY AND POLITICALLY WOMEN WILL BE LESS ENDANGERED BY MEN. WE’RE ON OUR WAY OUT OF THE WOODS.

by William Bond, …..Comments by Rasa Von Werder…..5 12 14

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An extreme example of this is the military, where officers can order their men to do insane things like attacking the enemy in hundreds or thousands, or go against machine gun fire knowing that the majority of them will not survive.  Men like to call this bravery or iron-discipline but it also extreme submission to authority.

An extreme example of this is the military, where officers can order their men to do insane things like attacking the enemy in hundreds or thousands, or go against machine gun fire knowing that the majority of them will not survive. Men like to call this bravery or iron-discipline but it also extreme submission to authority.

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