WHY YOU NEED GURU RASA

By Rasa Von Werder, March 25th, 2014
GURU RASA SAYS: THIS IS THE SELF REALIZED, ENLIGHTENED PERSON WHO KNOWS “GOD DOES THIS THROUGH ME.” SUCH A PERSON DOES NOT SIN OR DO ANYTHING THROUGH THE LOWER CHAKRAS, THEY REMAIN ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE SAHASRARA.

Why you need Guru Rasa

What is meant by being a disciple and learning ultimate Self Realization or Enlightenment?  What does it mean to attain God, if God is within you?  Why does one need a Guru if God is within?
If God is within, where exactly is God?  Why is God so difficult to obtain when God is right there inside you?

All these and many more will be explained here, with commentary by me – Guru Rasa.  My remarks are in caps.  The rest is written by a Yoga expert, with my agreement but much needs explanation, as there are more than one way of explaining a thing or practicing it.

I AM GOD ON EARTH, RECEIVE ME

I AM GOD ON EARTH, RECEIVE ME

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Instruction (Upadesa)

1. What are the marks of a real teacher (Sadguru)?
Steady abidance in the Self, looking at all with an equal eye, unshakeable courage at all times, in all places and circumstances, etc.

RASA SAYS:  THE SELF MEANS THE GOD WITHIN.  THE SADGURU, AT LEAST THE YOGIS, UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE IN THE SPIRIT OF GOD, THEY ARE ONE WITH GOD, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE OR SEPARATION BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND GOD.
SAINTS OF OTHER RELIGIONS, FOR INSTANCE, CATHOLICS, DO NOT CLAIM THEY ARE GOD ON EARTH OR EVEN ONE WITH GOD, BECAUSE THEIR RELIGION (THAT OF CHRISTIANITY) DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS WAS A YOGA GURU.  THEY DEIFY JESUS AS THE ONE AND ONLY GOD, THERE IS NO OTHER, SO THAT IS HOW JESUS’ TEACHINGS WERE INTERPRETED.
JESUS WAS RECOGNIZED BY THREE YOGIS (WISE MEN- (POSSIBLY BUDDHISTS) WHO CAME FROM THE EAST TO RECOGNIZE THE REINCARNATIO OF THEIR GURU.  THEY CAME FOR JESUS AT THE AGE OF TWELVE, WHERE HE WAS TAKEN TO TIBET FOR STUDY, AND HE WAS RETURNED TO ISRAEL AT AGE 29 TO CONDUCT HIS MINISTRY.  FEW OF THE CHRISTIAN SAINTS UNDERSTAND THIS, AS IT WAS NEVER TAUGHT.

GURU RASA SAYS:  LIBERATION IS FROM THE EGO, EGO BEING SENSE OF SEPARATENESS OR SEPARATION FROM GOD,  GOD BEING OUR GREATEST GOOD, OUR INFINITE BEING, OUR ULTIMATE JOY.

GURU RASA SAYS: LIBERATION IS FROM THE EGO, EGO BEING SENSE OF SEPARATENESS OR SEPARATION FROM GOD, GOD BEING OUR GREATEST GOOD, OUR INFINITE BEING, OUR ULTIMATE JOY.

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2. What are the marks of an earnest disciple (sadsisya)?
An intense longing for the removal of sorrow and attainment of joy and an intense aversion for all kinds of mundane pleasure.

GURU RASA SAYS:  THIS IS ALL TRUE ON THE PATH TOWARD SELF REALIZATION, WHICH I PRACTICED MOST OF MY LIFE; IT IS THE PATH OF RENUNCIATION, AS TAUGHT BY JESUS AND OTHERS.  ONCE DONE WITH THIS, I WAS INSTRUCTED BY GOD WITHIN TO “HAVE FUN”, IF I DID NOT DO SO, I WOULD THEN BE OUTSIDE THE WILL OF GOD.  THIS THEN, IS MY NEW MESSAGE ON THIS WEBSITE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN RENUNCIATION.  RENUNCIATION IS A POWERFUL PATH TOWARD THE ATTAINMENT OF GOD, BUT FEW CAN FOLLOW IT OR REACH ITS GOAL.  THE PATH I AM TEACHING NOW DOES NOT GUARANTEE SEEING GOD FACE TO FACE – BY NO MEANS.  BUT IT DOES REMOVE THE DEMONS OF PATRIARCHY AND BRINGS FORTH REASONABLE HAPPINESS AND THE NORMALCY WHICH GOD INTENDED.

WHEN ONE THINKS IN TERMS OF WHO ONE IS COMPARED TO OTHER PEOPLE, THIS IS THE EGO THINKING.  WHEN ONE THINKS IN TERMS OF CASTE, RACE, RICH OR POOR, EVEN GENDER, THIS IS EGO THINKING.....   (OF COURSE, I DO TEACH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE, THE FEMALE BEING THE AUTHORITY, BUT I FULLY REALIZE THAT IN GOD, THE ULTIMATE SENSE, THERE IS NO GENDER.  ONCE WE ARE FREE OF THE FLESH AND THE EARTH, WE ARE ALL THE SAME BEFORE GOD, INFINITY, BUT WHILE ON EARTH, THERE HAS TO BE SOME DIFFERENTIATION.

WHEN ONE THINKS IN TERMS OF WHO ONE IS COMPARED TO OTHER PEOPLE, THIS IS THE EGO THINKING. 

3. What are the characteristics of instruction (upadesa)?
The word ‘upadesa’ means : ‘near the place or seat’ (upa – near, desa – place or seat). The Guru who is the embodiment of that which is indicated by the terms sat, chit, and ananda (existence, consciousness and bliss), prevents the disciple who, on account of his acceptance of the forms of the objects of the senses, has swerved from his true state and is consequently distressed and buffeted by joys and sorrows, from continuing so and establishes him in his own real nature without differentiation.

GURU RASA SAYS:  WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT YOUR GURU SAVES YOU FROM THE LOWER SELF, THE LIFE OF LIVING IN THE LOWER CHAKRAS.  THE GURU TAKES YOU TO THE HIGHER CHAKRAS, THE HEART AND ABOVE, WHERE YOU ARE NOT BLINDED AND BUFFETED BY THE SENSE OF EGO  (IDENTIFICATION WITH THE WORLD, THE FLESH AND THE DEVIL) BUT YOU ARE LIBERATED TO ENTER INTO THE JOY OF THE LORD, OR THE HIGHER SENSES, HIGHER CHAKRAS, ALL THE WAY TO THE SAHASRARA.  IN THIS DWELLING PLACE, WHICH IS HEAVEN ON EARTH, YOU STAY THE SAME, OR UNSHAKEN BY THE GOINGS ON OF THE EARTH PLANE, YOU STAY IN A CONSISTENT STATE OF PEACE – AN UNCHANGING PLACE, WHICH COULD BE CALLED BLISS.  HERE YOU DO NOT EASILY GET DEPRESSED OR ANXIOUS, SORROWFUL OR AFRAID IN ANY WAY, NO MATTER WHAT TAKES PLACE ON EARTH.
GRANTED, TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.  SAINTS DO RECEIVE THE SAME “TEMPTATIONS” OR DRIVES TOWARD SORROW, FEAR, DEPRESSION, AND ANXIETY.  BUT UNLIKE NORMAL SOULS, THEY SHAKE IT OFF QUICKLY.  THE ONES THAT ARE TOTALLY ABSTRACTED NEVER FEEL PAIN – SO I AM TOLD.  BUT ONES THAT WORK IN THE WORLD, STAY IN THE WORLD AND HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL BE ASSAULTED BY THE THINGS OF THE WORLD AND PEOPLE.

THE SELF REALIZED, ENLIGHTENED PERSON WHO KNOWS  “GOD DOES THIS THROUGH ME.”  SUCH A PERSON DOES NOT SIN OR DO ANYTHING THROUGH THE LOWER CHAKRAS, THEY REMAIN ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE SAHASRARA.

THE SELF REALIZED, ENLIGHTENED PERSON WHO KNOWS
“GOD DOES THIS THROUGH ME.”
SUCH A PERSON DOES NOT SIN OR DO ANYTHING THROUGH THE LOWER CHAKRAS, THEY REMAIN ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE SAHASRARA.

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Upadesa also means showing a distant object quite near. It is brought home to the disciple that the Brahman which he believes to be distant and different from himself is near and not different from himself.

GURU RASA SAYS:  THE GURU BRINGS YOU CLOSER TO YOURSELF, YOUR TRUTH, WHO YOU REALLY ARE – GOD.

4. If it be true that the Guru is one’s own Self (atman), what is the principle underlying the doctrine which says that, however learned a disciple may be or whatever occult powers he may possess, he cannot attain self-realization (atma-siddhi) without the grace of the Guru?
Although in absolute truth the state of the Guru is that of oneself it is very hard for the Self which has become the individual soul (jiva) through ignorance to realize its true state or nature without the grace of the Guru.

GURU RASA SAYS:  IT IS A UNIVERSAL BELIEF AMONG YOGIS THAT YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO ENLIGHTENMENT WITHOUT A GURU OR GURUS.  IT JUST SIMPLY IS TOO HARD.  CONSIDER A GOLD MEDAL OLYMPIC CHAMPION MAKING IT TO THE TOP WITHOUT HER COACH.
OR THINK OF A CLASSICAL MUSIC COMPOSER CREATING A SYMPHONY WITHOUT EVER STUDYING MUSIC AS PRESENTED BY PREVIOUS COMPOSERS.  WE WORK ON THE FOUNDATION OF PUNDITS AND SAINTS THAT GO BEFORE US, WE NOT ONLY RECEIVE THEIR INSTRUCTION BUT THEIR GRACE OR ENERGY.

IT IS A UNIVERSAL BELIEF AMONG YOGIS THAT YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO ENLIGHTENMENT WITHOUT A GURU OR GURUS.  IT JUST SIMPLY IS TOO HARD.  CONSIDER A GOLD MEDAL OLYMPIC CHAMPION MAKING IT TO THE TOP WITHOUT HER COACH.

IT IS A UNIVERSAL BELIEF AMONG YOGIS THAT YOU CAN’T MAKE IT TO ENLIGHTENMENT WITHOUT A GURU OR GURUS. IT JUST SIMPLY IS TOO HARD. CONSIDER A GOLD MEDAL OLYMPIC CHAMPION MAKING IT TO THE TOP WITHOUT HER COACH.

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All mental concepts are controlled by the mere presence of the real Guru. If he were to say to one who arrogantly claims that he has seen the further shore of the ocean of learning or one who claims arrogantly that he can perform deeds which are well-nigh impossible, “Yes, you learnt all that is to be learnt, but have you learnt (to know) yourself? And you who are capable of performing deeds which are almost impossible, have you seen yourself?” they will bow their heads (in shame) and remain silent. Thus it is evident that only by the grace of the Guru and by no other accomplishment is it possible to know oneself.

GURU RASA SAYS:  HOW PROUD PEOPLE ARE, HOW THEY WANT TO CLAIM THEY LEARNED IT ALL OF THEMSELVES, IT WAS ALL ORIGINAL KNOWLEDGE AND LIGHT, THEY DID IT ALL.  WHAT LIARS!  HOW PRIDEFUL AND BOASTFUL!  IN INDIA THEY ALWAYS ASK A SEEKER,
“WHO IS YOUR GURU?”
IF A PERSON SAYS THEY HAVE NONE, IT IS SIMILAR TO A BOAT WITHOUT SAILS, A SHIP WITHOUT A RUDDER.  IMAGINE A THING TRYING TO GET TO WHERE IT NEEDS WITHOUT DIRECTION.

THEY CLAIM NO GURU OFFICIALLY, BUT HOW CAN ANY HUMAN IN THIS CIVILIZATION, WHERE ALL AROUND US RELIGION DWELLS, SAY SHE HAD NO GUIDANCE?

THEY CLAIM NO GURU OFFICIALLY, BUT HOW CAN ANY HUMAN IN THIS CIVILIZATION, WHERE ALL AROUND US RELIGION DWELLS, SAY SHE HAD NO GUIDANCE?

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5. What are the marks of the Guru’s grace?
It is beyond words or thoughts.

6. If that is so, how is it that it is said that the disciple realizes his true state by the Guru’s grace?

It is like the elephant which wakes up on seeing a lion in its dream. Even as the elephant wakes up at the mere sight of the lion, so too is it certain that the disciple wakes up from the sleep of ignorance into the wakefulness of true knowledge through the Guru’s benevolent look of grace.

7. What is the significance of the saying that the nature of the real Guru is that of the Supreme Lord (Sarvesvara)?
In the case of the individual soul which desires to attain the state of true knowledge or the state of Godhood (Isvara) and with that object always practises devotion, when the individual’s devotion has reached a mature stage, the Lord who is the witness of that individual soul and identical with it, comes forth in human form with the help of sat-chit-ananda, His three natural features, and form and name which he also graciously assumes, and in the guise of blessing the disciple, absorbs him in Himself. According to this doctrine the Guru can truly be called the Lord.

GURU RASA SAYS:  THIS IS SAYING, GOD WHO IS WITHIN YOU AS A WITNESS, KNOWS EXACTLY WHEN YOU MUST BE ABSORBED OR DRIVEN UP INTO THE SAHASRARA.  I DO RECALL HOW STRESSFUL THIS WAS WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME, IN 1981.  GOD APPEARED IN FRIGHTENING FASHION.  I WAS DISSOLVING, I WAS HELPLESS.  IT WAS THE EGO-SELF THAT DISINTEGRATED AND WAS NO MORE.  I WAS PULLED INTO A FIRE, BURNED UP IN IT, IN ONE VISION.  ANOTHER VISION I WAS IN THE OCEAN, SINKING DEEPER AND DEEPER WITH NO ABILITY TO ESCAPE.  I SANK INTO THE GOD WITHIN ME, THE OLD SELF WAS NO MORE.

WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME, IN 1981.  GOD APPEARED IN FRIGHTENING FASHION.  I WAS DISSOLVING, I WAS HELPLESS.  IT WAS THE EGO-SELF THAT DISINTEGRATED AND WAS NO MORE.  I WAS PULLED INTO A FIRE, BURNED UP IN IT, IN ONE VISION.  ANOTHER VISION I WAS IN THE OCEAN, SINKING DEEPER AND DEEPER WITH NO ABILITY TO ESCAPE.  I SANK INTO THE GOD WITHIN ME, THE OLD SELF WAS NO MORE.

WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME, IN 1981. GOD APPEARED IN FRIGHTENING FASHION. I WAS DISSOLVING, I WAS HELPLESS. IT WAS THE EGO-SELF THAT DISINTEGRATED AND WAS NO MORE. I WAS PULLED INTO A FIRE, BURNED UP IN IT, IN ONE VISION. ANOTHER VISION I WAS IN THE OCEAN, SINKING DEEPER AND DEEPER WITH NO ABILITY TO ESCAPE. I SANK INTO THE GOD WITHIN ME, THE OLD SELF WAS NO MORE.

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8. How then did some great persons attain knowledge without a Guru?
To a few mature persons the Lord shines as the light of knowledge and imparts awareness of the truth.

GURU RASA SAYS:  HAHAHA.  I DOUBT IT.  THEY CLAIM NO GURU OFFICIALLY, BUT HOW CAN ANY HUMAN IN THIS CIVILIZATION, WHERE ALL AROUND US RELIGION DWELLS, SAY SHE HAD NO GUIDANCE?

9. What is the end of devotion (bhakti) and the path of Siddhanta (i.e., Saiva Siddhanta)?
It is to learn the truth that all one’s actions performed with unselfish devotion, with the aid of the three purified instruments (body, speech and mind), in the capacity of the servant of the Lord, become the Lord’s actions, and to stand forth free from the sense of ‘I’ and ‘mine’. This is also the truth of what the Saiva-Siddhantins call para-bhakti (supreme devotion) or living in the service of God (irai-pani-nittral).

GURU RASA SAYS:  WHEN YOU BECOME ENLIGHTENED, YOU ARE IN THE GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, WHICH IS THE SAME AS BEING GOD.  WHEN YOU ARE AWARE OF BEING GOD, IT IS GOD WHO DOES ALL ACTIVITIES THROUGH YOU.  ON THIS WEBSITE, EMBODIMENT OF GOD, I AM POSITING HOW THE ACT OF SEXUAL LOVE IS GOD DOING THE LOVING.  OBVIOUSLY, THAT PERTAINS TO THE EVOLVED SOULS, NOT THE LOWLIFES.  WHEN A LOWLIFE DOES SEX, IT IS MERELY PHYSICAL, WHEN A LOWLIFE RAPES OR USES ANOTHER BODY, IT IS SIN, NOT OF GOD.

10. What is the end of the path of knowledge (jnana) or Vedanta?
It is to know the truth that the ‘I’ is not different from the Lord (Isvara) and to be free from the feeling of being the doer (kartrtva, ahamkara).

GURU RASA SAYS:  THIS IS THE SELF REALIZED, ENLIGHTENED PERSON WHO KNOWS
“GOD DOES THIS THROUGH ME.”
SUCH A PERSON DOES NOT SIN OR DO ANYTHING THROUGH THE LOWER CHAKRAS, THEY REMAIN ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE SAHASRARA.

11. How can it be said that the end of both these paths is the same?
Whatever the means, the destruction of the sense ‘I’ and ‘mine’ is the goal, and as these are interdependent, the destruction of either of them causes the destruction of the other; therefore in order to achieve that state of Silence which is beyond thought and word, either the path of knowledge which removes the sense of ‘I’ or the path of devotion which removes the sense of ‘mine’, will suffice. So there is no doubt that the end of the paths of devotion and knowledge is one and the same.
NOTE: So long as the ‘I’ exists it is necessary to accept the Lord also. If any one wishes to regain easily the supreme state of identity (sayujya) now lost to him, it is only proper that he should accept this conclusion.

12. What is the mark of the ego?
The individual soul of the form of ‘I’ is the ego The Self which is of the nature of intelligence (chit) has no sense of ‘I’. Nor does the insentient body possess a sense of ‘I’. The mysterious appearance of a delusive ego between the intelligent and the insentient, being the root cause of all these troubles, upon its destruction by whatever means, that which really exists will be seen as it is. This is called Liberation (moksha).

GOD WHO IS WITHIN YOU AS A WITNESS, KNOWS EXACTLY WHEN YOU MUST BE ABSORBED OR DRIVEN UP INTO THE SAHASRARA.  I DO RECALL HOW STRESSFUL THIS WAS WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME, IN 1981.  GOD APPEARED IN FRIGHTENING FASHION.  I WAS DISSOLVING

GOD WHO IS WITHIN YOU AS A WITNESS, KNOWS EXACTLY WHEN YOU MUST BE ABSORBED OR DRIVEN UP INTO THE SAHASRARA. I DO RECALL HOW STRESSFUL THIS WAS WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME, IN 1981. GOD APPEARED IN FRIGHTENING FASHION. I WAS DISSOLVING

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GURU RASA SAYS:  LIBERATION IS FROM THE EGO, EGO BEING SENSE OF SEPARATENESS OR SEPARATION FROM GOD,  GOD BEING OUR GREATEST GOOD, OUR INFINITE BEING, OUR ULTIMATE JOY.
WHEN ONE THINKS IN TERMS OF WHO ONE IS COMPARED TO OTHER PEOPLE, THIS IS THE EGO THINKING.  WHEN ONE THINKS IN TERMS OF CASTE, RACE, RICH OR POOR, EVEN GENDER, THIS IS EGO THINKING…..
(OF COURSE, I DO TEACH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE, THE FEMALE BEING THE AUTHORITY, BUT I FULLY REALIZE THAT IN GOD, THE ULTIMATE SENSE, THERE IS NO GENDER.  ONCE WE ARE FREE OF THE FLESH AND THE EARTH, WE ARE ALL THE SAME BEFORE GOD, INFINITY, BUT WHILE ON EARTH, THERE HAS TO BE SOME DIFFERENTIATION.  FOR INSTANCE, A PARENT HAS TO BE IN AUTHORITY OVER A CHILD, A CHILD DOES NOT TELL ITS PARENTS WHAT TO DO.  BY THE SAME TOKEN, GOD MADE WOMAN THE MOTHER, THE WOMAN HAS AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN.  THIS IS NOT EGO THINKING, IT IS JUST THE WAY THINGS WORK OUT IN THE FLESH.  FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A DOG.  THE DOG DOES NOT HAVE YOU.  THE DOG DOES NOT PUT YOU ON A LEASH AND TAKE YOU FOR A WALK.  THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS.  THERE IS DIFFERENTIATION IN THE FLESH.  SO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE.)

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